S5-09: Tech Team Tuesday with Shane Hendren & Mark Nelson

Rio’s Education Coordinator, Mark Nelson, joins Rio Tech Team member Shane Hendren to talk shop and answer your jewelry-making questions.
 
In this episode, Mark shares the incredible story of Jacob Morgan's journey to Bhutan to teach stamp-making and stamping to students of the Bhutan School of Metalsmithing Arts.
 
For more information about the Bhutan School of Metalsmithing Arts, including how you can help support this worthy cause, visit www.https://bhutanschool.org/.
 
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Topics covered in this episode:
 
1) Rio for Schools Program: https://www.riogrande.com/rio-for-schools/
2) Barrier flux - https://tinyurl.com/46k365zt
3) Firescale on gold-filled metal
4) Smith® Silver Smith™ acetylene and air torch kit without tank - https://tinyurl.com/2dtxrjx5
5) Lindstrom Tools—Use code Lindstrom1 to get 10% off all Lindstrom Tools now through the end of April. Shop now: https://tinyurl.com/4hb57ysr
 
Have a question for the Jewelry Tech Team? Email us at podcast@riogrande.com, and we will try to answer your question on the next episode.

Transcript

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Good morning and welcome to

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Tech Team Tuesday, live at 11.

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Today I have a very special guest,

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but before I get to my special guest,

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We've got some cutters and pliers and...

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I have some of these in my

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personal bench at home,

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but they've been abducted by my daughter.

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She loves them.

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So if you guys out there in

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jewelry world are

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We...

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are here to answer all your questions.

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Any and all questions that

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you have tech related,

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that's why we're here.

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I encourage you all to get

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your questions in.

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And without further ado,

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I want to introduce you to Mark Nelson.

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Many of you,

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many of you know Mark Nelson

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because for many years, Mark was,

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and still is, the face of Rio Grande.

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I've been all over the United States,

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and when people find out

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I'm from Rio Grande,

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the first question they ask me is,

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where's Mark?

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He's at work.

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How's Mark?

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Is Mark coming?

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Right.

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When will Mark be here?

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When I first came to work here,

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I threatened to get

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T-shirts made that said,

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I know Mark Nelson.

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You should have, man.

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You should have.

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I still think that is

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something we need to do,

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is get the old Mark Nelson T-shirts.

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But...

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Mark used to be on the tech team.

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Yes, I did.

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He's one of the OGs.

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But now, tell us exactly what your job is.

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What do you do now?

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Because what you do now has

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a great big huge impact on

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the future of the jewelry world, I think.

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Okay,

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so I'm the education coordinator for

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Rio Grande,

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and how that started was before COVID,

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we'd have classes here at Rio,

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and I coordinated all that.

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I put together the schedule,

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I got the instructors,

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I worked with the students

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and everything.

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When COVID hit,

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I basically sat at my

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computer all day processing orders.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I do a lot of that still,

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but my focus is kind of

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running the Rio for Schools

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program and making sure

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that works and getting

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together with schools and

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coordinating with them and helping them.

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So you're uniquely qualified

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to be involved in education

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because you're a professor as well.

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It's working here at Rio Grande.

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You teach jewelry at one of

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the local institutions.

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Do you want to say who that is?

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Yeah, yeah, I know.

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You're liable to end up with

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a waiting list of people

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that want to take your classes.

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That's okay.

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It's a night class,

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so there's lots of time.

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I do a night class at CNM,

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which is Central New Mexico College.

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It's a community college.

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And I have a really great program.

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And I teach this, the intro class,

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which is like metals one.

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It's a night class because

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I'm at work here at Rio during the day.

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Right.

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And you teach too, right?

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I do.

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I teach at the Institute of

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American Indian Arts at night.

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But I don't teach jewelry.

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I teach sculpture fundamentals.

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That's even funnier.

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Well, I don't know.

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It's all good, though.

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Yeah.

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I love it.

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I like the energy of teaching.

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I love it.

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I love it.

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Being surrounded by people

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that are eager to learn.

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So once again, get your questions in,

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because we'd be happy to answer them.

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But I want you to give me a

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little bit of your background.

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How did you come into the jewelry field?

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What got you here?

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Kind of a funny story.

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I was getting my

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undergraduate degree at Northern Arizona.

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I was an illustration major.

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I wanted to be a high school art teacher.

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Okay.

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Right?

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And part of my scholarship

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was I was a lab tech.

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So I ran the jewelry studio.

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Right.

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And just had to take class after class.

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And eventually I changed my major,

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went on to Texas Tech to

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get my master's degree.

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Right.

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And then immediately hit the

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bench because I had to

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start paying that student loan.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And it's a great combination

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because school will teach

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you how to solve weird problems.

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Yeah.

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And that really,

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really helped on the tech team.

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know and then having that

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experience on the bench

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really narrows your focus

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and masters your skills and

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and school gives you you

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interact with people from

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such diverse backgrounds

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uh-huh yeah I mean that's

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one of the things I like

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about teaching is I never

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know what I'm gonna get

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yeah that makes it so fun

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the fun part for me is

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having a class a very

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diverse class because

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I immediately start gauging

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where people are going to go,

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and I have to stay on my

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toes to keep up with them.

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And I have to pivot and change on the fly.

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And that really dovetails

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into things that have been

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done here at Rio Grande.

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I know when Molly Bell was here,

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she was really influential

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in having us involved in,

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correct me if I'm wrong,

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but I think it was a toolbox initiative.

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Yes.

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Where we collected and sent

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tools to jewelers in Africa.

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Yeah.

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and everything.

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And there's been a number of

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different things like that.

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But most recently,

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and this is what I want you to get into.

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This is what I've been

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chomping at the bit for.

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So I'm going to remind you.

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You guys get your questions

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in on Instagram, YouTube, Facebook,

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however you want to ask your questions.

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But right now,

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what I want to get into is I

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want to ask Mark to tell us

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about Jacob Morgan.

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He's a Navajo jeweler from

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here locally in Rio Rancho, New Mexico.

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Grew up in Crown Point, New Mexico.

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But he traveled across the

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world to share his knowledge.

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Literally.

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So it's all you.

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Tell us about it.

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I'm excited.

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I'm getting goosebumps already.

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So it's a really long story.

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And we are definitely going

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to do a podcast,

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bring everybody together

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and talk about this event.

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Basically,

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we sponsored sending Jacob

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Morgan to Bhutan to teach

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them how to make stamps and do stamping.

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And let me back up the story

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just a little bit.

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So years ago,

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a jeweler named Michael McRae

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contacted me and he says, Mark,

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I'm going to go teach a class in Bhutan.

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And so my very first thing to do is like,

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how do you spell Bhutan?

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And where is it?

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That's exactly what I was

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going to ask you.

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Where is it exactly?

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It is a tiny little country

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nestled between India and

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China in a valley,

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almost like literally a valley.

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And I said, really?

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And he goes, yeah.

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And he was there.

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country has a program it's I

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think it's called disung

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skills trade and the

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government is putting

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together it's like skills

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school so they have welding

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carpentry culinary and all

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kinds of other trades and

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jewelry is part of that

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right and michael's job was

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to go teach the the jewelry

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part and um so we got him

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set up he went uh the first

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time second time he came

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back with one of his students uh searing

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And Searing spent like six

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months in the country.

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And he came here to Rio and

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they told us the story.

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And at that time, I'm like,

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here's a country of people

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trying to find their design

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aesthetic and language in jewelry making.

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Right.

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They didn't really know how

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to make a lot of jewelry.

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Right.

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So where was their jewelry

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coming from previously?

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Mostly like China and India.

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Okay.

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So it was all imported.

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There was nothing really

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being done internally.

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As far as I know.

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Okay.

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And when we bring the guys together,

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we're going to get a much better story.

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Right.

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And that idea implanted itself in my head.

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There's indigenous people

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seeking to find their voice

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in jewelry making.

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Right.

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And then it just sat with me for a while.

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And then in the middle of a freaking night,

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I got it.

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I woke up.

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I couldn't sleep.

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I said, we have to send...

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And then one of our

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indigenous people to that

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country to help them find their language.

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Who better to do that than in Navajo?

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Right.

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Because you guys have been through it all.

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Yeah.

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And the people in Bhutan have nothing,

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right?

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And you can't send them

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anything because they're

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just logistically hard to ship to, right?

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And everything's really

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expensive to get there.

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And so I said,

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this person has to know how

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to work with nothing, right?

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Yeah.

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And you remember that book,

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Art of Stamping by Matthew Schumann?

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I do.

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Yeah.

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I got a copy of that.

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And I remember all the

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artists that came here for

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that book signing.

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Yeah.

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You were here for that.

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And Jacob was there.

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He presented his story.

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And I'm goosebumping.

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God dang.

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So I went through that book, and I contact,

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and I'm lazy, right?

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So I'm like, Jacob lives in Rio Rancho.

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It's like 20 minutes away.

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That would be so neat.

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Right.

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So I contacted Matthew Schimany,

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and I said, Matthew, here's the idea.

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What do you think about sending Jacob?

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He goes, he'd be perfect.

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And actually,

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Matthew was a little upset

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that I didn't invite him to go.

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Yeah.

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so um I saw I saw jacob at

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the market indian market I

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went by his booth and I got

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to meet him and his lovely

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wife you're talking about

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santa fe indian market yeah

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that's every year in august

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yeah and he had another

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blue wyvern on his table

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you know and uh had a great

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conversation with him and I

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said jacob um I got an idea

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I don't want to propose it

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now but I want to talk to

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you and I called him up and

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I said how would you like to go to bhutan

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and teach them how to make

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stamps and stamping.

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He goes, I'd love to.

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And I went through the circuit here,

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got approval.

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And Jacob just came back.

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I hope he's watching the live now.

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He'll make a comment.

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And yeah,

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it's just sending an indigenous

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person from New Mexico to

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Bhutan to teach them how to

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find their voice and

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language in jewelry making.

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I want to mention something

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real quick that's a highlight here.

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For anybody who's listening to this,

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we sell the book that Mark

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is referencing that was the

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hinge point that this all

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revolved around because

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that book was what

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connected all the players involved.

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And so if anybody wants that book,

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we sell it.

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You can find it on our website.

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We'll put a link in some

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place so that you can find it.

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And that's there.

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And I also want to point out

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that Rio Grande now has

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been in existence for 80 years.

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And a lot of people don't know this,

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but Rio Grande literally

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started in the back of a

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trading post on Central

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Avenue in Albuquerque, New Mexico.

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And they've been serving the

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indigenous jewelry

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community for 80 years.

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And what you did is you

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expanded that to an international level.

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And the thing that I find

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amazing that I think is

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important for people to

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realize is Rio Grande is

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different than a lot of other places.

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We're not, yeah,

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we're going to sell you tools.

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We're going to sell you materials.

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I wouldn't have the career I

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have if it wasn't for Rio Grande.

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Because I had this opportunity,

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I could walk in and I ask you questions,

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I ask Cessen questions,

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I ask Ronnie questions,

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all these people that have

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been on the tech team, Eddie Bell,

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it was a laundry list of

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people who helped me.

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And that's what Rio Grande

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has continued to perpetuate.

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And having you as the

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education person and facilitating that,

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You really are the point of

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the spear in doing that

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because you work with

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schools and everything.

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And this experience that

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happened in Bhutan, to me,

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it's just like this.

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It's a cultural exchange.

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it's a cultural exchange but

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it's like it's like what

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rio grande is rooted in

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yeah but on steroids yeah

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it's like it's going to

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this whole new level but

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it's still remaining true

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to its roots right and and

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choosing jacob his work is

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just impeccable I mean

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I challenge people sometimes,

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if you look him up on Instagram,

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we'll post a link to his Instagram.

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If he's watching, throw it in the chat,

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Jacob.

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Yeah, if you're watching,

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throw it in the chat.

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But you would think that a machine did it.

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Oh, yeah.

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His work is so precise,

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and he makes so many of his

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tools himself.

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So for you to choose to send

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this person over there is

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like those students that he had,

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they're getting a leapfrog jump ahead.

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in knowledge that some

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people will spend decades

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working on and never...

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Jacob just called me yesterday,

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and he said these students

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were so amazing.

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He says, you know,

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there was that whole

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years-long period where he

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was trying to learn to craft from his dad,

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right?

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And he said they got to a point so fast,

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they had it like...

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right like that well and

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that shows you how eager

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they are I know super eager

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naturally gifted people so

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I'm really looking forward

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to to hearing more about

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that um during the podcast

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too well I'm I'm hopeful

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I'm hopeful that uh we get

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him in here live everybody

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who was involved and and do

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a uh just a specific

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podcast and recording that

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covers um the uh

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the whole thing from every perspective.

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I'm going to say this to you real quick.

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The school has a website,

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and it's called theboutonschool.org,

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and that's B-H-U-T-A-N-S-C-H-O-O-L.org.

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And so Michael McRae and his

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group of people put

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together this website so

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they could help raise funds.

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What they're trying to do is

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actually build a building

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in Bhutan for this jewelry program.

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specifically because right

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now they share a building

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and every time uh when

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michael goes out searing

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who stays there has to

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build the classroom they

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have the classes and then

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they break it down and

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store it and so they're

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really hoping to build a

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school and please go to

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that website it's going to

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tell you more about the

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program and there is a

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place to donate and it's really fantastic

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And related to that, the book,

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if you guys are looking for

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it on our website,

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is The Art of Stamping.

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The title of the book is The

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Art of Stamping.

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So if you want to follow up

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with that and everything,

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we're getting some questions, Mark,

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so we're going to have to

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do what we originally intended to do.

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But if you guys have

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questions about anything,

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get them in to us.

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I really look forward to

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getting everybody in here

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and having a more extensive conversation.

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But I want to thank you for

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making this happen.

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Thank you, man.

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Because this is a perfect

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example of why I wanted to

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come to work at Rio Grande.

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Because this has always been

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something that was happening.

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And it's people like you

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that make that happen.

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And I hope the people that

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are watching this understand that,

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you know,

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We're a company,

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but we're a company made up

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of people that are

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passionate about things.

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And Mark is passionate about education,

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he's passionate about jewelry,

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he's passionate about all

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kinds of other things as well.

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Connecting people.

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But before we start answering questions,

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I want you to talk a little bit about,

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because I recently sent a

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professor from ASU

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your way oh yeah um so tell

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us what the real for

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schools pro did I get that

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right the real for schools

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program schools program

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explain what that is a

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little bit so we have it

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captured so that anybody

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can reference it later

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because if you're if you're

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in education as an educator

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or as a student real for

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schools applies to you so

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give us a little background

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on what that is all right

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so real for schools there's

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a long history there but

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Rio for Schools is our

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program to help educators and students.

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And if you teach pretty much

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any kind of form of jewelry

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making or related to jewelry making,

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you'll probably more than likely qualify.

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On our website,

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if you search Rio for Schools,

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it'll take you to the

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instructor or institution sign-up page.

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And we're just going to ask

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a couple of brief questions.

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And you submit the form.

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It comes to me.

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And I just look it over,

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verify everything's good,

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and I'll enroll you in the program.

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If you're an instructor or institution,

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like a school,

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we're going to give you special pricing,

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special perks on shipping,

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and things like that.

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It's all outlined on that page.

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And what we'll do is create

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a code for you to give to your students.

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And what you do when the

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student does is input that

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code into their account online,

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and they're going to get

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the student benefits.

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And it's been working out

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really well the last couple of years.

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And correct me if I'm wrong,

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but last time I checked,

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the student benefits are

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they get a period of time

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where they get real pro

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pricing and things, correct?

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It's similar to that.

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So it lasts for six months

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and it can be renewed.

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So a lot of students are in

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school for years.

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So you can reuse that code

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and get six months at a

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time of wholesale access.

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That's what I'm getting at.

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You get wholesale access,

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which means you have the

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ability to buy things

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that not everyone can buy.

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Exactly, yeah.

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Which, as a student, is a great benefit.

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Oh, yeah.

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Because you're going to be

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able to get stuff that

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otherwise is not available.

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Right, exactly.

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And if you have any

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questions about the Rio for

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Schools program,

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you can email me at

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RioForSchools at RioGrande.com.

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with that we're going to get

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into our first question so

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on instagram southbound

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smith asks anything to

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prevent copper coating on

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14 karat yellow gold after

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making multiple solder

00:18:15.189 --> 00:18:16.430
joints the metal starts to

00:18:16.490 --> 00:18:17.810
turn copper color even

00:18:17.971 --> 00:18:19.832
after pickling I use a

00:18:19.912 --> 00:18:22.294
smith acetylene torch what

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do you think barrier flux

00:18:24.154 --> 00:18:26.257
right barrier flux yeah

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So like alcohol and boric

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acid or cupranol?

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Or cupranol, right.

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We sell the cupranol.

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We sell the boric acid.

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Firescough.

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Firescough works good too.

00:18:38.596 --> 00:18:39.557
Those would be the things

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that you could try and see

00:18:41.439 --> 00:18:43.440
if that works for you, Southbound Smith.

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And then I've got a question

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here from YouTube.

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This is from...

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Rinaldo Cruz and he says hi

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I'm new to making jewelry

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I'm looking to make a

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golden Cuban chain how do I

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go about applying orange

00:19:01.777 --> 00:19:04.721
flakes shellac in order to

00:19:04.800 --> 00:19:06.522
stick for filing and

00:19:06.563 --> 00:19:08.404
removing afterwards there's

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not a lot of info

00:19:11.730 --> 00:19:13.531
I've never used orange flake shellac.

00:19:13.672 --> 00:19:13.991
Have you?

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I haven't either.

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I've used some shellacs,

00:19:17.255 --> 00:19:19.537
like a black shellac from Japan.

00:19:19.596 --> 00:19:19.817
Yeah.

00:19:20.396 --> 00:19:21.498
And I heated it up.

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It's how I make it stick.

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And then I heated it up to break it loose.

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Right.

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And then I used,

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I think I used either

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acetone or denatured

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alcohol to clean it off.

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But I've never used the orange flake.

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I think it's the same stuff.

00:19:35.470 --> 00:19:35.910
Rinaldo.

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Heating it up.

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Yeah.

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But...

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Yeah, and I've never made a Cuban chain.

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I want to make that clear.

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Although it is,

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that and a grill are

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actually on my list of

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things that I'd like to.

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Some things you got to do just to do them.

00:19:52.166 --> 00:19:53.547
That way I can just say, yeah, I did that.

00:19:54.367 --> 00:19:56.749
Been there, done that.

00:19:57.769 --> 00:19:58.390
So there's that one.

00:19:58.410 --> 00:20:01.590
And I have another question from BK Henry.

00:20:02.451 --> 00:20:04.873
And BK on Instagram wants to know,

00:20:05.692 --> 00:20:07.374
how do you get rid of fire

00:20:07.433 --> 00:20:08.494
scale on gold fill?

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I'm going to make a very

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unpopular statement.

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I do not like gold fill.

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It's the devil's metal.

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A lot of people use it

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because it's inexpensive,

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but you have to be very

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technically savvy to use gold fill.

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And I'm going to...

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Be 100% honest.

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In my experience with gold fill,

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once you have the fire scale,

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you're not getting rid of it.

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No.

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Because in order to get rid

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of the fire scale,

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you're going to get rid of the gold.

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Yeah.

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It's a no-win situation.

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I'm right there with you, man.

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Yeah.

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I don't know of a way to get

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rid of fire scale on gold fill.

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Plate it.

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Well,

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that's what most companies that use

00:20:58.026 --> 00:20:58.625
Goldfield do.

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That's how they cover the solder joints.

00:21:01.527 --> 00:21:02.326
That's how they get rid of

00:21:02.346 --> 00:21:03.708
the inconsistencies as they

00:21:03.748 --> 00:21:04.268
played over it.

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But no,

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I don't know of any other way to do that.

00:21:09.069 --> 00:21:10.851
But I want to remind people

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for the remainder of the month of April,

00:21:13.432 --> 00:21:14.092
Lindstrom One,

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to get yourself 10% off

00:21:16.772 --> 00:21:17.653
anything Lindstrom.

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And you were mentioning to

00:21:20.913 --> 00:21:21.714
me before that...

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that like a lot of the

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companies that we represent in Cary,

00:21:26.519 --> 00:21:27.901
Lindstrom has actually

00:21:28.000 --> 00:21:29.522
helped out a local high school.

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Yeah, Lindstrom,

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we have a really great

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local high school program

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and she was looking for

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pliers and I knew that Lindstrom

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was very passionate also

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about helping students.

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And they were able to get

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the teacher a whole

00:21:45.317 --> 00:21:46.738
classroom set of pliers and cutters.

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So it's really cool.

00:21:50.740 --> 00:21:52.842
And the Lindstrom ones, in my experience,

00:21:52.862 --> 00:21:53.982
have been very good because

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they're very precise.

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And they tend to be on the

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smaller side for people

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with smaller hands.

00:22:01.567 --> 00:22:03.589
And they're ergonomically

00:22:03.630 --> 00:22:04.470
designed and everything.

00:22:04.530 --> 00:22:05.250
So if you're looking for

00:22:05.270 --> 00:22:06.872
good pliers or good cutters,

00:22:06.951 --> 00:22:08.834
Lindstrom is definitely a good way to go.

00:22:08.854 --> 00:22:09.554
Yeah, for sure.

00:22:10.055 --> 00:22:12.176
But get your questions in.

00:22:12.396 --> 00:22:13.817
If you have any additional questions,

00:22:14.597 --> 00:22:15.699
we encourage you to ask

00:22:15.719 --> 00:22:16.579
your questions now.

00:22:17.000 --> 00:22:20.063
If you don't get them in before we're done,

00:22:20.363 --> 00:22:20.843
then we'll...

00:22:21.703 --> 00:22:22.944
We'll circle back around and

00:22:23.125 --> 00:22:24.546
answer them in a future episode,

00:22:25.047 --> 00:22:26.386
or we will respond to them

00:22:26.448 --> 00:22:29.410
via our social media person, Shania.

00:22:29.750 --> 00:22:30.891
Shout out to Shania.

00:22:31.451 --> 00:22:32.832
She answers a lot of those questions.

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But I also want to remind

00:22:34.353 --> 00:22:35.673
people that you can watch

00:22:35.914 --> 00:22:37.435
all of our past episodes.

00:22:37.855 --> 00:22:38.516
The visuals,

00:22:38.536 --> 00:22:40.198
you can watch those on YouTube.

00:22:40.678 --> 00:22:41.798
They're all on YouTube.

00:22:42.239 --> 00:22:43.660
And if all you want is the

00:22:43.900 --> 00:22:46.662
audio from these Tech Team Lives,

00:22:47.482 --> 00:22:49.625
you can go to For the Love

00:22:49.644 --> 00:22:51.105
of Jewelers podcast.

00:22:51.266 --> 00:22:52.727
Anywhere you listen to podcasts,

00:22:53.167 --> 00:22:54.208
you can listen to For the

00:22:54.269 --> 00:22:55.288
Love of Jewelers there.

00:22:56.150 --> 00:22:58.751
So if you want to look at the old video,

00:22:59.031 --> 00:22:59.752
go to YouTube.

00:23:00.153 --> 00:23:01.614
And if you just want to hear the audio,

00:23:01.974 --> 00:23:02.755
go to For the Love of

00:23:02.815 --> 00:23:05.897
Jewelers anywhere you watch podcasts.

00:23:07.519 --> 00:23:09.300
We're getting to the end here.

00:23:09.320 --> 00:23:10.040
All right.

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I really, really...

00:23:13.922 --> 00:23:15.323
Want to get Jacob in here.

00:23:15.482 --> 00:23:15.663
Yeah.

00:23:16.163 --> 00:23:17.525
And who was the other person

00:23:17.545 --> 00:23:18.365
that was involved?

00:23:18.484 --> 00:23:19.046
Michael McRae.

00:23:19.266 --> 00:23:19.986
Michael McRae.

00:23:20.105 --> 00:23:20.266
Yeah.

00:23:20.646 --> 00:23:23.449
And sit them down and talk

00:23:23.509 --> 00:23:24.910
about the whole experience

00:23:24.970 --> 00:23:25.789
and everything because...

00:23:26.951 --> 00:23:28.392
It's an important story to tell.

00:23:29.333 --> 00:23:30.413
It's not just important.

00:23:30.433 --> 00:23:30.693
I think...

00:23:33.038 --> 00:23:34.479
The advantage we have living

00:23:34.499 --> 00:23:35.980
in the world we do today is

00:23:36.180 --> 00:23:37.320
it's gotten so much smaller.

00:23:37.500 --> 00:23:38.340
Yeah.

00:23:39.162 --> 00:23:40.823
But this place that Jacob

00:23:40.863 --> 00:23:42.023
went to is an example of

00:23:42.084 --> 00:23:46.386
how we have these locations

00:23:46.426 --> 00:23:49.628
that are still, for one,

00:23:49.669 --> 00:23:50.469
they're isolated.

00:23:50.608 --> 00:23:50.788
Yeah.

00:23:51.609 --> 00:23:53.790
But there's communities of

00:23:53.871 --> 00:23:55.071
people that are trying to

00:23:55.132 --> 00:23:57.854
find ways to express

00:23:57.894 --> 00:23:59.454
themselves artistically.

00:23:59.474 --> 00:23:59.555
Yeah.

00:24:00.500 --> 00:24:02.391
And at the same time, uh,

00:24:05.252 --> 00:24:06.532
create vocations for their

00:24:07.094 --> 00:24:08.614
for their people yeah and

00:24:08.794 --> 00:24:09.794
and jewelry is one of the

00:24:09.854 --> 00:24:11.535
few art forms that really

00:24:11.595 --> 00:24:13.635
does have a cost benefit

00:24:13.996 --> 00:24:15.155
like jewelry is something

00:24:15.195 --> 00:24:18.396
that you can make yeah and

00:24:18.616 --> 00:24:20.438
um it's it's really cool

00:24:20.458 --> 00:24:21.458
that you did that we've got

00:24:21.518 --> 00:24:22.557
another question here from

00:24:22.758 --> 00:24:24.979
uh instagram it's uh from

00:24:25.038 --> 00:24:27.359
jesse's jewelry um and they

00:24:27.400 --> 00:24:28.680
want to know what torch do

00:24:28.720 --> 00:24:31.020
you recommend for a beginner teacher

00:24:32.442 --> 00:24:34.864
My favorite torch is still

00:24:34.884 --> 00:24:36.345
the Smith Acetylene Air Torch.

00:24:37.045 --> 00:24:38.365
That's the first torch I picked up.

00:24:39.266 --> 00:24:41.967
It's easy to maintain, easy to light,

00:24:42.207 --> 00:24:42.728
turn off,

00:24:43.367 --> 00:24:44.567
and it handles just about any

00:24:44.587 --> 00:24:45.608
kind of job you can throw at it.

00:24:45.709 --> 00:24:46.689
Just about anything.

00:24:47.009 --> 00:24:49.009
If you have to,

00:24:49.049 --> 00:24:50.730
you can always start with a butane torch.

00:24:51.530 --> 00:24:52.832
A lot of people are doing that.

00:24:53.672 --> 00:24:54.873
A lot of times you might need two of them.

00:24:55.173 --> 00:24:55.413
Well,

00:24:55.532 --> 00:24:57.433
in the soldering classes you used to

00:24:57.453 --> 00:24:59.694
do here, you used butane torches a lot.

00:25:00.373 --> 00:25:02.755
Yeah, we actually brought in Joe Silvera,

00:25:03.075 --> 00:25:04.935
who wrote the book on butane torches.

00:25:05.675 --> 00:25:06.696
And he taught a class on that.

00:25:06.936 --> 00:25:08.877
And they're really great little tools.

00:25:10.138 --> 00:25:10.298
Yeah.

00:25:11.240 --> 00:25:12.941
Well, we've got more questions coming in.

00:25:12.980 --> 00:25:14.402
So as long as you ask your questions,

00:25:14.422 --> 00:25:15.643
we're going to stay here and answer them.

00:25:16.502 --> 00:25:19.025
So the next question I have,

00:25:19.045 --> 00:25:19.924
I don't know where.

00:25:20.165 --> 00:25:20.246
Oh,

00:25:20.326 --> 00:25:22.646
it came from Instagram from Lunik

00:25:22.727 --> 00:25:23.228
Jewelry.

00:25:23.528 --> 00:25:25.108
Lunik Jewelry would like to know.

00:25:26.798 --> 00:25:27.939
I would like to order an

00:25:28.278 --> 00:25:31.001
economic welder for welding spring rings,

00:25:31.102 --> 00:25:33.022
small rings on bracelets, et cetera.

00:25:33.483 --> 00:25:35.164
Can you recommend me anything?

00:25:36.846 --> 00:25:37.626
That's on you.

00:25:38.347 --> 00:25:38.928
Absolutely.

00:25:39.388 --> 00:25:39.848
Orion.

00:25:40.209 --> 00:25:40.430
Yeah.

00:25:40.690 --> 00:25:41.470
Orion or Puck.

00:25:42.050 --> 00:25:44.133
Either of those micro TIG

00:25:44.173 --> 00:25:46.894
welders that we sell will do the job.

00:25:47.194 --> 00:25:47.875
We've got them in all

00:25:47.935 --> 00:25:48.977
different price points.

00:25:49.457 --> 00:25:51.638
Depending on the maximum

00:25:51.739 --> 00:25:53.000
gauge you want to be able to weld,

00:25:53.019 --> 00:25:54.540
that's going to determine which welder

00:25:55.321 --> 00:25:56.541
is going to be ideal for you.

00:25:57.282 --> 00:25:59.022
But for the most part,

00:25:59.722 --> 00:26:00.804
that's the way to go.

00:26:02.124 --> 00:26:04.644
I have an Orion 150S is what I use.

00:26:05.045 --> 00:26:05.285
Okay.

00:26:05.305 --> 00:26:06.546
And I use it a lot for that.

00:26:07.105 --> 00:26:09.185
I've got questions coming in

00:26:11.106 --> 00:26:13.288
from Mary Ann Couchy.

00:26:13.327 --> 00:26:15.268
I apologize if I mispronounce that.

00:26:16.608 --> 00:26:17.528
She would like to know,

00:26:18.189 --> 00:26:19.890
which stone should you not

00:26:19.990 --> 00:26:21.690
put in any ultrasonic?

00:26:23.570 --> 00:26:23.790
What's that?

00:26:24.756 --> 00:26:25.296
Most of them.

00:26:25.476 --> 00:26:25.736
Yeah.

00:26:25.816 --> 00:26:26.957
Most of them.

00:26:26.997 --> 00:26:27.777
And there's charts for that.

00:26:27.916 --> 00:26:29.076
I think we have a chart on our website,

00:26:29.096 --> 00:26:29.298
don't we?

00:26:29.317 --> 00:26:29.998
Yeah.

00:26:30.018 --> 00:26:30.817
Like in the Knowledge Hub?

00:26:30.857 --> 00:26:31.758
Yes, in the Knowledge Hub.

00:26:31.857 --> 00:26:32.097
Yeah.

00:26:32.419 --> 00:26:33.199
Yeah.

00:26:33.358 --> 00:26:35.500
But the easy answer is most of them.

00:26:35.819 --> 00:26:36.000
Yeah.

00:26:36.559 --> 00:26:40.060
I always tell people if it's not a diamond,

00:26:40.500 --> 00:26:41.821
a sapphire, or a ruby.

00:26:42.261 --> 00:26:42.801
You're risking it.

00:26:43.122 --> 00:26:45.083
Yeah.

00:26:45.222 --> 00:26:47.483
You're playing with fire or

00:26:48.443 --> 00:26:49.263
risking breakage.

00:26:49.824 --> 00:26:51.065
I've got another question from Deb.

00:26:53.180 --> 00:26:53.619
Macon,

00:26:54.201 --> 00:26:56.103
do you carry and sell Jacob's stamps?

00:26:57.304 --> 00:26:58.183
Jacob doesn't sell them.

00:26:58.644 --> 00:27:00.846
No, Jacob doesn't sell them.

00:27:02.667 --> 00:27:03.969
Does he teach classes?

00:27:04.028 --> 00:27:04.368
Do you know?

00:27:04.388 --> 00:27:04.430
No?

00:27:04.789 --> 00:27:06.290
No, this is the first time he's taught.

00:27:06.310 --> 00:27:07.332
This is the first time he's taught.

00:27:08.153 --> 00:27:09.012
First time he taught,

00:27:09.614 --> 00:27:10.273
first time he went to a

00:27:10.314 --> 00:27:10.855
different country.

00:27:11.474 --> 00:27:11.976
Wow.

00:27:12.036 --> 00:27:13.636
First time, his trip took two days.

00:27:14.498 --> 00:27:15.578
So there's a lot of firsts.

00:27:15.955 --> 00:27:16.036
Yeah,

00:27:16.096 --> 00:27:17.577
and I imagine he ate a lot of things

00:27:17.597 --> 00:27:18.598
he never ate before, too.

00:27:18.719 --> 00:27:19.900
I loved it.

00:27:20.240 --> 00:27:21.622
That's why I want to get him in here.

00:27:21.682 --> 00:27:23.144
I want to ask all those questions.

00:27:24.025 --> 00:27:24.845
What did you eat?

00:27:25.246 --> 00:27:26.207
Where did you sleep?

00:27:26.227 --> 00:27:28.189
Because I've seen his

00:27:28.249 --> 00:27:29.891
pictures on Instagram and Facebook.

00:27:30.471 --> 00:27:32.053
They're amazing pictures.

00:27:32.153 --> 00:27:33.134
But we've got another

00:27:33.193 --> 00:27:37.556
question from Baba Ifalde.

00:27:37.576 --> 00:27:39.076
I hope that's correct.

00:27:39.936 --> 00:27:40.497
They want to know,

00:27:40.576 --> 00:27:41.998
what do you recommend as a

00:27:42.057 --> 00:27:43.739
good brass solder that

00:27:43.798 --> 00:27:45.019
doesn't show up easily?

00:27:45.500 --> 00:27:46.700
I want to hear your answer to this, Mark.

00:27:46.881 --> 00:27:47.060
Okay.

00:27:47.800 --> 00:27:49.561
Honestly, I think it's silver.

00:27:49.582 --> 00:27:51.843
10 karat gold.

00:27:52.262 --> 00:27:53.584
That's what I recommend.

00:27:54.084 --> 00:27:55.444
I tell people 10 karat gold solder.

00:27:55.464 --> 00:27:56.484
It's almost a perfect color match.

00:27:56.705 --> 00:27:56.885
Yeah.

00:27:57.726 --> 00:27:58.487
10 karat gold solder.

00:27:58.846 --> 00:27:59.747
It's a little pricey,

00:27:59.906 --> 00:28:01.028
but if you want a color match...

00:28:01.569 --> 00:28:01.750
Yeah,

00:28:02.049 --> 00:28:03.830
and easy to work with because some of

00:28:03.851 --> 00:28:04.691
those other ones that are

00:28:04.770 --> 00:28:06.852
like the wire solders and

00:28:06.892 --> 00:28:07.412
things like that,

00:28:07.432 --> 00:28:08.751
they're difficult to work with.

00:28:08.832 --> 00:28:10.313
Yeah, the copper-based ones,

00:28:11.073 --> 00:28:12.633
they just irritate me to no end.

00:28:12.813 --> 00:28:14.054
That gold solder, super easy,

00:28:14.153 --> 00:28:15.034
perfect color match.

00:28:15.294 --> 00:28:15.453
Yeah.

00:28:15.913 --> 00:28:16.894
It's going to cost you a little,

00:28:16.913 --> 00:28:18.234
but if you want a color match,

00:28:18.275 --> 00:28:20.194
that's the way to go on that one.

00:28:22.874 --> 00:28:24.275
I'm going to give you guys

00:28:25.174 --> 00:28:26.215
one more chance to get some

00:28:26.236 --> 00:28:29.457
more questions in because

00:28:29.477 --> 00:28:31.178
we're getting close to our time here.

00:28:31.818 --> 00:28:34.480
I really look forward to

00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:37.520
hearing Jacob tell us about his trip.

00:28:37.721 --> 00:28:39.922
Me too, me too.

00:28:40.103 --> 00:28:41.603
I know I'm a broken record,

00:28:41.663 --> 00:28:44.144
but I've seen the pictures

00:28:44.305 --> 00:28:45.345
and I've read some of his

00:28:45.384 --> 00:28:46.625
accounts that he's posted

00:28:46.665 --> 00:28:47.465
on social media.

00:28:48.366 --> 00:28:49.606
One was very particular

00:28:50.428 --> 00:28:51.327
where he went to the temple.

00:28:51.929 --> 00:28:53.109
well and he met the king

00:28:53.349 --> 00:28:55.871
yeah um oh and did it he

00:28:55.931 --> 00:28:57.852
made the king and the queen

00:28:57.971 --> 00:28:59.292
bracelets yeah and I got to

00:28:59.313 --> 00:29:01.173
videotape the process and

00:29:01.213 --> 00:29:02.814
watch him make the billets

00:29:03.355 --> 00:29:04.575
and he poured out his own

00:29:04.634 --> 00:29:07.036
scrap made the ingots I i

00:29:07.076 --> 00:29:07.896
want us to be able to make

00:29:07.957 --> 00:29:09.557
a video that has all of

00:29:09.637 --> 00:29:11.018
that in it so that people

00:29:11.057 --> 00:29:12.199
can see that whole thing

00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:16.500
because he also um did he

00:29:16.540 --> 00:29:18.001
take the silver did we provide that

00:29:18.909 --> 00:29:20.150
uh we provided it okay

00:29:20.529 --> 00:29:21.951
because all the students

00:29:22.010 --> 00:29:23.152
got to make a ring and keep

00:29:23.211 --> 00:29:23.853
it and that was the very

00:29:23.893 --> 00:29:25.653
first and that blew them

00:29:25.733 --> 00:29:27.596
away that was that was like

00:29:27.675 --> 00:29:29.057
giving them a cloud yeah

00:29:29.076 --> 00:29:30.237
from the sky or something

00:29:30.577 --> 00:29:31.218
because they're part of a

00:29:31.258 --> 00:29:32.019
government program they

00:29:32.038 --> 00:29:33.599
couldn't keep anything they made right

00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:35.221
So Michael and I said,

00:29:35.621 --> 00:29:36.580
this is different this time.

00:29:36.601 --> 00:29:37.902
We're going to send metal

00:29:37.942 --> 00:29:39.803
from us that they can keep

00:29:39.843 --> 00:29:40.383
and make something.

00:29:40.722 --> 00:29:43.544
And we got some pictures

00:29:43.604 --> 00:29:46.445
back of them just covered in bracelets.

00:29:47.405 --> 00:29:49.846
And his photography is next level.

00:29:50.548 --> 00:29:50.788
I mean,

00:29:50.827 --> 00:29:52.307
he's as good a photographer as he

00:29:52.387 --> 00:29:52.929
is a jeweler.

00:29:53.269 --> 00:29:53.489
Yeah.

00:29:53.568 --> 00:29:55.490
Because he's got landscape

00:29:55.549 --> 00:29:57.089
pictures and everything.

00:29:57.130 --> 00:29:58.570
It just blows my mind.

00:29:59.551 --> 00:30:00.192
Did Jacob put his...

00:30:02.185 --> 00:30:04.288
Jacob hasn't signed in that I know of.

00:30:04.588 --> 00:30:06.210
Let me give it.

00:30:06.269 --> 00:30:07.811
Yeah, give us his Instagram.

00:30:07.892 --> 00:30:09.453
So this is Jacob's Instagram.

00:30:09.614 --> 00:30:12.537
It's jacob.d.morgan,

00:30:13.277 --> 00:30:21.204
and it's j-a-c-o-b.d.morgan, M-O-R-G-A-N.

00:30:21.865 --> 00:30:22.066
Okay.

00:30:23.240 --> 00:30:24.661
hope you all got that jacob

00:30:24.840 --> 00:30:27.340
if you're on please post

00:30:27.781 --> 00:30:29.682
any way anybody can contact

00:30:29.701 --> 00:30:31.623
you on social media so that

00:30:31.643 --> 00:30:32.583
they can see some of this

00:30:32.603 --> 00:30:33.722
stuff and everything and if

00:30:33.782 --> 00:30:35.304
you are on I can't wait

00:30:35.443 --> 00:30:37.144
until you recover from your

00:30:37.204 --> 00:30:39.244
jet lag and and you can get

00:30:39.325 --> 00:30:41.246
in here and we can uh we

00:30:41.266 --> 00:30:44.487
can talk about all this um but uh

00:30:45.597 --> 00:30:47.097
With that, I want to remind everybody,

00:30:47.538 --> 00:30:48.519
you can watch our previous

00:30:48.578 --> 00:30:49.598
episodes on YouTube.

00:30:49.999 --> 00:30:51.118
You can listen to them

00:30:51.719 --> 00:30:53.079
anywhere you get podcasts

00:30:53.980 --> 00:30:55.000
for the love of jewelers.

00:30:56.980 --> 00:30:59.141
Lindstrom One to get 10% off

00:30:59.381 --> 00:31:00.681
Lindstrom products until

00:31:00.721 --> 00:31:01.441
the end of April.

00:31:02.741 --> 00:31:03.001
Mark,

00:31:03.182 --> 00:31:04.701
I look forward to talking to you

00:31:04.761 --> 00:31:05.481
again sometime.

00:31:05.501 --> 00:31:06.521
You're a wealth of knowledge.

00:31:06.582 --> 00:31:07.041
Thank you, man.

00:31:07.082 --> 00:31:08.903
You've always been an inspiration to me,

00:31:09.462 --> 00:31:10.583
and I really appreciate it.

00:31:11.262 --> 00:31:11.863
Thanks for having me.

00:31:11.883 --> 00:31:12.844
Thank you for making Tech

00:31:12.864 --> 00:31:14.663
Team Tuesday live and fun.

00:31:15.181 --> 00:31:15.782
Alright, cool.

00:31:16.246 --> 00:31:16.487
Alright.